tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post3916040794803398981..comments2023-07-26T06:20:01.981-04:00Comments on 4 Haelz: Vanity Fair and You: The Untold Story.Bellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13850946760618331779noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-81528276986745138932008-07-31T15:35:00.000-04:002008-07-31T15:35:00.000-04:00Not to mention that Tanks get pissed when you stun...Not to mention that Tanks get pissed when you stun stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-35748366591395037502008-07-31T07:30:00.000-04:002008-07-31T07:30:00.000-04:00The rogue mace thing is a PvP thing only. The mace...The rogue mace thing is a PvP thing only. The mace spec talent lets you get random stuns in every now and then, and it triggers a lot faster when you're dual-wielding.<BR/><BR/>That is, of course, much less useful in PvE, where 50% of everything is immune to stun...Armondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03200628248855719672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-30030995402502392012008-07-30T12:30:00.000-04:002008-07-30T12:30:00.000-04:00I don't cheat! I bend the rules to my will!...And ...I don't cheat! I bend the rules to my will!<BR/><BR/>...And stuff.Matticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09187814987595415787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-33980190505665685732008-07-29T16:33:00.000-04:002008-07-29T16:33:00.000-04:00Awlbiste- Please re-read the last sentence of the ...Awlbiste- Please re-read the last sentence of the first paragraph.Lazzicalshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872949961856683434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-80134900262941293162008-07-29T15:29:00.000-04:002008-07-29T15:29:00.000-04:00I am Jack's endless confusion. No theorycrafter wo...I am Jack's endless confusion. No theorycrafter worth their salt is going to tell mages not to sheep. Also, in a raid situation a large percentage of the time a dps class's "utility" is, well, dps.Awlbistehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619095986274071605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-36175890886211349542008-07-29T14:57:00.000-04:002008-07-29T14:57:00.000-04:00Bad players will be bad players regardless of whet...Bad players will be bad players regardless of whether they do research or not. A Mage not Sheeping is worse than a Hunter not Trapping. Sheeping is easy and if a Mage refuses to do it, it's a sign of a bad player.<BR/><BR/>I just can't see doing research as cheating. I can't. So many things in the game are difficult to know or understand without looking it up.<BR/><BR/>Go find X-dude in Y zone isn't exactly helpful as a quest tip, but sometimes that's all you get. I don't know about you, but it would frustrate the hell out of me if I had to search an entire zone to find somebody.<BR/><BR/>"But Stupid, you'll miss out on all the exploring and whatever!" No, sorry. I'd rather drop quest. I don't have hours and hours to spend "exploring".<BR/><BR/>THANK YOU all you bloggers and explorers and number crunchers. THANK YOU for doing all that stuff and sharing. My game is so much more fun thanks to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-39400977617914677452008-07-29T12:49:00.000-04:002008-07-29T12:49:00.000-04:00@Surzala: Very cool. I think that learning from lo...@Surzala: Very cool. I think that learning from lots of different sources and letting others' experiences encourage you to try new things helps a player to find the playstyle that best suits them. There's nothing wrong with "breaking the mold" of what's accepted, but you should do so by first being well-informed about why you're making adjustments. That is, after all, how new molds are formed. :-)Loni Huffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01133567916019535449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-44250067642483594382008-07-29T12:41:00.000-04:002008-07-29T12:41:00.000-04:00I came away from the post feeling like people were...I came away from the post feeling like people were being criticized for trying to find out how to play better.<BR/><BR/>However, maybe it was addressing instead the practice of taking someone else's wisdom without analyzing it for yourself. <BR/><BR/>Also, it's just not one tip that's going to make you a better player. It's reading more and more, asking more and more players and then experiencing the strategies yourself that is going to improve your play.<BR/><BR/>If you blindly take someone else's advice without attempting to understand it yourself, you have done yourself and everyone you play with a huge disservice.<BR/><BR/>I have played with players who insist on using some "tip" they read on the internet that has wiped the party, but I've also played with competent Retribution paladins who have made positive contributions to a group and are great players.Chris Connelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05461585451839362428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-36164230107060235422008-07-29T12:20:00.000-04:002008-07-29T12:20:00.000-04:00Valenna- Now that's my kind of comment. You made m...Valenna- Now <I>that's</I> my kind of comment. You made me feel like a jerk, instead of making me think you're a jerk. <BR/><BR/>I fully understand where you're coming from, so. I'm not really referring to those who 'research their class'. Sure, that's fine. People who <I>completely base</I> their playstyles off of what they read are cheating, because they never really learned to play themselves. <BR/><BR/>It seems as though I had a skewed idea of theorycrafting in the first place, and I apologize for that. It's true, I have read articles that people wrote after tirelessly crunching numbers so they can prove that Drain Life doesn't do damage. Goodness, I'm a <I>hypocrite</I> :(!<BR/><BR/>Also, it seems like we have had opposite experiences as well. I've had to deal with mages that don't sheep because it squanders their mana that could be used for using firebolts because they read it in Vanity Fair, whereas you have had to deal with paladins who spec Retribution because they thought it seemed neat and they didn't want a paladin blog to tell them otherwise.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I made up your story, but I imagine it's happened to you, anyway. <BR/><BR/>So thanks for making me feel like a jerk so I could revisit my opinion and try to undo the damage I have done to my honour.Lazzicalshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872949961856683434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-37437653378858269422008-07-29T12:08:00.000-04:002008-07-29T12:08:00.000-04:00I was going to say how brillant this post was for ...I was going to say how brillant this post was for being the most sardonic posts I've read yet on the ignorance of players that refuse to research their class or the game. And the sheer genius of comparing all the sources of theorycrafting and tips to teen girls magazines as the ulimate in sarcasm.<BR/><BR/>But apparently, I can't. <BR/><BR/>To compare research of your class as paramount to cheating is however hilarious.<BR/><BR/>This reminds me of the debate between science and religion. Do you decide to research a topic, consult experts, come to an educated conclusion or do you just have blind faith that you're playing the right way and decide that just because you've been rewarded in a postive way (next level, quest gear) that your style of play is right?<BR/><BR/>You decide to rant and make snap decisions about an entire group of people after admitting you've never even read a theorycrafting article.<BR/><BR/>If you want to play a single player game then researching how to play the game may be considered cheating to some people. Those same people might not want to know how to get to the secret portion of a video game without finding it themselves. Others enjoy maximizing their performance in the game.<BR/><BR/>However, this is a multiplayer game. That's the second M in MMO. Not learning how to optimize your role for multiplayer is a disservice to everyone you play with. This is true no matter what sport or game you play. Would a professional athlete train by themselves in a vacuum, or would they research and find out the best methods of training, exercise and play to perform better at their sport? Team sports players study hundreds of strategies from many sources looking to improve their play. No one on a team wants to be that person that is ill-prepared for that next game simply because they didn't do their research on the team they are about to play.<BR/><BR/>@Doyce: Those that learn to play their class and play it well, are going to take the method they used to learn their class with them to Lich King. Those that don't know how to play their class are going to carry forth the same bad play to Lich King because they simply never learned how to analyze or research a playstyle.Chris Connelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05461585451839362428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-78485878778369419292008-07-29T11:47:00.000-04:002008-07-29T11:47:00.000-04:00Doyce- Oh goodness. That'll certainly be a fun tim...Doyce- Oh goodness. That'll certainly be a fun time. <BR/><BR/>Phaelia- It's not satire. I don't care for people who base their playstyles on what other people do. <BR/><BR/>LOL!!!Lazzicalshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872949961856683434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-54649731197051140932008-07-29T11:22:00.000-04:002008-07-29T11:22:00.000-04:00@Doyce: People who enjoy reading and learning abou...@Doyce: People who enjoy reading and learning about their classes will continue to perform well in the expansion because they will continue to learn rather than basing their playstyle on previous "personal" experience as the original poster seems to prefer.<BR/><BR/>Out of respect for Bell, I won't give my full opinion of the contents of this post, but I'm going to instead assume that it's an odd attempt at satire. ^_^ In which case, LOL!!!Loni Huffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01133567916019535449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812976357150095653.post-53043091779410435672008-07-29T10:55:00.000-04:002008-07-29T10:55:00.000-04:00The answer, I'm afraid, is "both".Just wait until ...The answer, I'm afraid, is "both".<BR/><BR/>Just wait until Wrath comes out and all the things they learned were the one true way... aren't.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06586295585650827603noreply@blogger.com